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But turns out American Eagle Coins are in a whole price category by themselves. They're usually 60 dollars more than an ounce of any other kind of coin. Check out this site. http://www.monex.com/monex/controller?pa geid=prices I paid the price of gold bullion, but the American eagle coin itself says it's 60 bucks more. So why did the guy at the coin gallery charge me bullion price?
He could have been an idiot.
The coins could be fakes, (maybe get them checked?)
Or he could be simply trying to off load them to pay that month's bills :S
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I would like to sell my five American Eagle gold coins while the price is still high.
How do I go about it without incurring a big commission?
I bought it from a dealer. He charges about $30-50 charge to buy or sell them.
That's per coin.
bulliondirect 1% commission
add on craigslist does well
and do not sell yet there is more bank failures comming and many more investors will head to the exits (gold silver) and the price will keep going to 1200
Whats the best way to start? Is it better to buy bullion bars or coins? Does it matter what kind of coins? For example, Gold American Eagles over American Buffalos?
Why does the face value of an American Eagle 1oz. is $50 when gold is worth almost $900, and the same thing with the rest of the American Eagle coins?
As with any other investment, you'll need to look at this around your current and expected life circumstances: do you already have money in the bank, 3-6 months worth? Do you have high interest debt that you should pay back before making investments? Are you saving for any near term large purchases, like a car or house? Are you well insured against most common hazards, with car insurance, homeowners or renters insurance, health insurance, disability insurance, and life insurance (if you have dependents)? All of these core considerations may take precedence over gold - or any other - investments.
Most investment advisors suggest that one's investments in precious metals - in all forms, including the stocks of the companies that mine them, be kept to 5-10% of one's investable assets, and that's not a bad guide for most individuals.
Given that, in part as noted in the wisdom of some of the other answer-ers to this question:
* Coins have some advantages over bars, primarily because coin buyers usually don't require that their gold content be re-evaluated (assayed) when they are bought and sold.
* You might consider any of the following in your mix of gold investments:
1. A small amount of physical gold, usually in the form of coins purchased from bullion dealers (monex.com, kitco.com, blanchardonline.com, etc.), coin dealers, or from trusted sellers on eBay.
Some foreign buyers only want .999 fine gold coins, and only some American coins, like the Buffalo coins, offer that fineness. Other US gold coins - with the same amount of total gold content - may be only .916 or .900 fine (91.6% or 90% gold, with the rest of its metal content consisting of an alloy metal like copper or silver) for instance, and for that reason might be in somewhat less demand from outside of the US, although a large fraction of US buyers may not care one whit about this. But for the most part, any well-recognized gold coin, from a US Eagle or Buffalo to a Canadian Maple Leaf, Austrian Philharmonic, or South African Krugerrand, to name just a few of the main options, is a reasonable choice.
2. Certificates for overseas storage of gold, from companies like GoldMoney.com or the Perth Mint.
3. Shares in Exchange Traded Funds (ETFs), like Street Tracks Gold Shares (ticker symbol "GLD"), that represent a part ownership of a big pile of securely-stored gold and track the gold price. These trade just like stocks.
4. Shares in mutual funds that own stock in companies that mine gold.
Here's one reputable mutual fund complex with two gold-oriented mutual funds that allows you to do so with just $100 up front and $50 a month:
http://www.usfunds.com/docs/html/abc_pla ...
That way, you won't try to "time" the market: if gold mining companies' shares drop, you'll buy more shares, and if they rise, you'll buy less, until you've allocated whatever amount you wish. As well, they can do the work of picking stocks which, if you haven't studied the sector, might take you some time to learn to the point of comfortably making your own investment decisions.
Here's a comprehensive list of other gold-oriented mutual funds available to US investors:
http://www.eaglewing.com/fundlist.html
5. A diversified portfolio of individual companies that explore for, build reserves of, or mine gold. To do this, you'll need to do a considerable amount of homework, or find a trusted investment adviser who knows this sector well.
Before buying *any* gold, figure out why you want to own it. What makes the gold price go up? What factors (like increases in the amount of central bank sales of gold, or increases in the value of the dollar against other currencies) are often - at least recently - associated with it going down?
If you're buying physical gold as disaster insurance, for instance, against the possibility of widespread bank failures or hyperinflation, you'll need to figure out a) whether you can stand holding it if its price should decline, even sharply, in the next couple of years and b) where you can safely store it.
If you're buying gold as an investment, you'll want to have some idea about why you're buying it now, what prices you'll sell at, why and when you expect those prices to be realized, under what specific circumstances you'll consider selling, and how much you'll sell. Note that when you buy and sell anything - gold or stocks - you'll take a haircut when both buying and selling, in the way of commissions and buy/sell spreads, so you might need to make 5-15% on various forms of gold-related investments just to break even.
Some background: we do know that gold went from $35 per Troy ounce in 1973 - when its price stopped being fixed by the US Government - to (briefly) $850 in 1980, down to around $250 at a couple of points around 2001-03, up to $1050 recently, and is around $880 today, as of this writing.
These aren't inflation-adjusted prices; roughly speaking, the $850 peak in 1980 corresponded to about $2,200 per Troy ounce in today's dollars, which means that the gold price today is less than half the 1980 peak.
We also know that, over extremely long periods of time, gold has roughly retained its purchasing power in goods, but that there are periods, sometimes long ones, where it is a very good investment and periods where it has been a very poor one. Those experiences even vary by country, as in cases where a nation's currency rapidly loses value due to capital flight, high inflation, or even hyperinflation.
Finally, we know that the gold price is volatile: even during its run-up from $35 to $850 over a 7-year period in the late 1970s, there was one case where it fell from $200 to $100 within about a one-year period from 1973-74, if memory serves.
As for the best time to invest, you might read what investment "experts" think about what will happen to the gold price and the prices of individual, or indexes of, gold-oriented stocks by continuing to read articles at these websites:
http://www.kitco.com
(see the links in the "Contributed Commentaries" section, about mid-way down the home page)
http://www.321gold.com
(see the links at top, under "Gold Silver $$$")
But be advised: there are as many opinions as experts, and they are often contradictory :-). For that reason, you might consider making your purchases of physical gold or gold stocks gradually, spaced apart by a month or two over a longer-term period. Once again, setting up automatic monthly dollar-cost investing into a gold-oriented mutual fund is a terrific automatic way to do this. That way, you aren't tempted to buy more when prices are rising and stop buying, or sell out of panic, when prices are falling.
Finally, as someone else astutely observed, the face value of a coin is pretty much irrelevant to its gold content or the metal value of that content.
There is one exception: some coins are legal tender at their face value, and this gives buyers some rather far-fetched downside protection. For instance there are some Canadian $100 legal tender gold coins, with about 50-60% gold content, that are worth about $200 in gold melt value today. If the price of gold were to plummet more than 50% from present levels (i.e. below about $400-$450 per Troy ounce), those coins would still be legal tender at $100 Canadian dollars, so you would have protection against these coins falling further in value, if gold were to then fall even further below that level. But that's a somewhat improbable scenario, and is mentioned here mostly for completeness.
im looking to buy gold and silver and i just dont get what is the point in the face value. does it mean if the gold drops under $50 (thats the face value of the american eagle gold coin) then the coin will be worth $50 or +$50 or none of the above?
All coins produced by the US Mint per direction of Congress must have some denomination on the coin whether they are intended for general circulation, commemorations, collectors, or as bullion. The denominations on other than general circulation coins are more of a formality and will not be set near the intrinsic value of its metal content. By setting the face value much lower than the precious metal value, the confusion of which is to be used for a sale/purchase value is avoided.
I have a 1909 s vdb and want it graded. Some people say certain companys are better for different coins. Who should I go with?
Also, I am getting a 2008 $50 American eagle gold coin. Is it worth it to get that graded? Thanks
The top 2 grading companies are PCGS and NGC, you need to go through a dealer to have them submitted. As for modern gold bullion coins most grade MS-69 or PR-69 anyway why bother with the added expense unless it would be safer if you had it slabbed. Some people are not to careful with coins or like to show them off, better to scratch a slab than a coin. There are 2 other grading services that have a good reputation on you have to join ICG the other you can submit on your own ANACS. The first 2 I gave you seem to be more dealer friendly so may add a little more value to your coin.
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